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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby _Marcus_ on 12/12/20, 09:14:08

My big question is what this will do to pirating. Aren't people more or less ripping films straight of streaming services these days? Or are they more secure than I think they are? I mean, I can't imagine this sells that many HBO Max subscriptions, right?
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby TC on 13/12/20, 09:11:17

you can, yes.

as far as the service, i use that more than anything else i have on average.
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby darkness on 13/12/20, 19:10:31

Sure, there's pirating out there, but it's really a drop in the bucket, most people don't have the patience or know how to do such. And even those who do, streaming services are so cheap it's almost not worth it. Even with access to other means, I still have Netflix, Disney+, HBOMax and Amazon Prime (the latter more for shipping though, I always forget they have a streaming service). Hell, I even had Apple+ for a couple of months to binge the things I wanted to watch on there.

It will be interesting to see what happens to tentpole movies. Disney appears to still be all in on them, other studios not so much. They day may come where the only films playing in actual movie theaters are the giant tentpoles and the multiplexes go the way of the dinosaurs in favor of giant luxury single screens.

The streaming services suck when it comes to smaller films and independent production. They want you to come to them with a finished project already paid for which they'll just buy for pennies and you'll be lucky to make your budget back. They don't finance much themselves unless you're a big name.

I think the 31 day HBO Max window is a bone thrown to theaters. "See, after 31 days you'll have no competition!" Of course everyone will have watched it by then. I'm sure VOD sales and rentals are also part of that, but I can't imagine the people running the numbers think that's going to be a big thing when everyone has already watched it on streaming. There are so few movies I care to own anymore.
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby TC on 23/12/20, 10:11:03

the plot thickens...

IndieWire wrote:Legendary’s Fight Against Warner Bros. Could Save ‘Dune’ from HBO Max
Denis Villeneuve is strongly against Warner Bros. shifting "Dune" to the streamer.

News broke less than a week after Warner Bros. announced it was shifting its entire 2021 film slate to a hybrid theatrical-HBO Max release model that Legendary Entertainment was set to challenge the Hollywood studio over the decision. Legendary financed 75% of the budgets for “Dune” and “Godzilla vs. Kong.” Under Warner Bros.’ new release strategy, these tentpoles will open in theaters on the same day they become available to stream exclusively on HBO Max for 31 days. Deadline now reports that Legendary’s fight against Warner Bros. could save at least “Dune” from a streaming fate.

As reported by Deadline: “Legendary is in a big fight that might result in lawsuits after it financed 75% of tentpoles ‘Dune’ and ‘Godzilla Vs. Kong’ and was completely blindsided. Rumors have the solution to that breach being to preserve ‘Dune’ as a traditional theatrical to preserve its franchise potential and since its October 1 release date falls well after the estimated late spring date when Covid vaccines should achieve herd immunity. ‘Godzilla Vs. Kong’ might stay an HBO Max hybrid in its May 21 slot, but only if Warner Bros. makes a deal with Legendary that uses as a base the $250 million value established when the film was shopped earlier to Netflix.”

Deadline originally reported that Legendary’s biggest issue with moving “Dune” to a hybrid release model was that it could impact the long-term commercial viability of the franchise. “Dune,” directed by Denis Villeneuve, is the first entry in a planned two-part adaptation of Frank Herbert’s novel. The movie is also set to lay the groundwork for a television series.

When it comes to “Godzilla vs. Kong,” Legendary allegedly had Netflix lined up to purchase “Godzilla vs. Kong” for around $250 million earlier this year. Warner Bros.’ parent company WarnerMedia reportedly blocked the decision, thus opening the door for the monster movie tentpole to be released on HBO Max in addition to theaters. Per Deadline, Legendary is reportedly looking to secure the same $250 million valuation from Warner Bros. over its decision to stream “Godzilla vs. Kong.” IndieWire has reached out to Legendary Entertainment for comment.

If Legendary can manage to preserve “Dune” as a theatrical-only release, it will certainly please writer-director Villeneuve. The filmmaker came out swinging against Warner Bros.’ decision to shift “Dune” to HBO Max, publishing an essay on Variety earlier this month in which he said the decision “might’ve killed the franchise.”

“There is absolutely no love for cinema, nor for the audience here,” Villeneuve wrote of the HBO Max decision. “It is all about the survival of a telecom mammoth, one that is currently bearing an astronomical debt of more than $150 billion. Therefore, even though ‘Dune’ is about cinema and audiences, AT&T is about its own survival on Wall Street. With HBO Max’s launch a failure thus far, AT&T decided to sacrifice Warner Bros.’ entire 2021 slate in a desperate attempt to grab the audience’s attention.”

“Dune” is currently scheduled for a hybrid release on October 1, 2021. “Godzilla vs. Kong” will be released earlier on May 21, 2021.
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby darkness on 24/12/20, 04:05:34

I think we're going to be seeing a lot more of this. Everyone is pretty much up in arms over not being consulted about the move. Even if things aren't pulled from HBOMax's intended day and date premiere, Warners is going to have to be opening it's pocketbook to keep everyone happy. Otherwise they'll have no future product as no one will want to work with them.
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby TC on 22/06/21, 09:39:41

Got a premiere at Venice Film Fest on Sept 3. In theaters and HBO Max on October 1.
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby TC on 25/06/21, 13:38:33

...and now it's been pushed back to Oct 22.
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Re: New Dune-movie

Postby TC on 22/07/21, 08:38:22



was anyone able to see the preview? it wasn't here. i heard it was like 15 min of the film. don't really know what to make of this trailer. not sure it's doing a great job of selling what this is. but i hope that it isn't a dud. really want to see this franchise made.
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