Haven't read / don't care about the book. But the plot and the sequence of scenes is remarkably similar thus far - apart from

the bizarre decision not to show the navigators (some of the best scenes in the Lynch)

. They're different sorts of films and filmmakers, yes - Lynch is an artist and Vielleneue is a moderately-talented hack. This is the same sort of argument folks used to justify the Shining mini-series...

That last sentence is true. However in this case the source material is actually good (great) and deserves a sweeping, faithful adaptation. Yes, DV has made some changes (mentioned already), but i still found it to be a fantastic film. Similar to Jackson’s LOTR trilogy (extended). Yes, he made some changes from the book, but overall it worked better as a film because of it. I’m not going to go that far yet, until i see the rest of it. And yes,

he passed up a great opportunity to show the navigators. And yes, probably my favorite scene in the original dune. That is disappointing. But, if he’s playing the long game here and betting on future films based on the source material, there will be a ridiculous amount of navigator coverage in a couple more books. That’s what i’m hoping, regardless of what he does with the second half of this.

Anyway, we get it - you don’t like DV’s work. I beg to differ, at least in the case of this and BR2049.

So... If the spice is necessary for interstellar travel, how did anyone find Arakkis in the first place?

klimov wrote: 05/11/21, 02:28:28 So... If the spice is necessary for interstellar travel, how did anyone find Arakkis in the first place?

One would assume there was previously another form of interstellar travel that was just slower and less efficient, in the same way we used to travel by horse and buggy before gas and automobiles.

Arrakis may have been found before the Butlerian Jihad when humans wiped out all computers and robots. Instead they have mentats and navigators do the calculations now. I haven't read the early books that Herbert's son wrote about the Butlerian Jihad, so I don't know all the details they came up with, but it gets referenced in the first book and explained a bit.

i have read them, and yes lots of details filled in. impossibly too complex to try to explain briefly.

I finally watched this. It was okay, but I felt like it could have used a better editor and lost about half an hour. I guess after the chop up job of the Lynch version we've now overcompensated with slavish devotion to the original. I'm also not sure why everyone says this film needs to be seen on a big screen. Half the film is medium shots and close-ups. and the wide shots are mostly of...sand. I feel like this is one of those things everyone repeats without really thinking about why. Overall I didn't really hate the film, but I can't say I'd ever watch it again either. I did like the soundtrack, which was pretty unique.

I’ve itemized my feelings about it. As far as “you have to see it on the big screen”, having watched it in both Imax and at home, it was an entirely different experience seeing it in Imax. Even with my 65” screen and Atmos surround rig. The soundtrack in the theater was very different - uncompressed, obviously - and much more enjoyable as the giant screen envelops you. So i’m one of those people that said that, and still say that. Yes, lots of interpersonal scenes where you don’t really need an 80’ tall face talking at you, but in the scenes it matters, it matters. I loved it and hope there is an extended version with some of the additional scenes i mentioned inserted, but i have no idea if any of them were even filmed. And i’m sure we don’t get any kind of extended version or director’s cut or anything until after both parts are released. At which point i’m sure there will be fan edits doing exactly what you describe, so hopefully we both win.

glad i wasn't the only one who felt this way: https://www.cbr.com/villeneuve-and-lync ... uet-scene/

still, that being said, it seems possible that it could appear in a flashback or something. or, maybe we'll eventually get an expended edition of the whole thing.

Deadline wrote:‘Dune: Part Two’: Christopher Walken To Play The Emperor In Sequel For Legendary And Warner Bros.

Denis Villeneuve is adding another high-profile talent to an already-loaded cast as sources tell Deadline Christopher Walken is set to play the Emperor in Warner Bros. and Legendary’s Dune: Part Two. Walken joins the all-star ensemble that includes Timothée Chalamet, Rebecca Ferguson, Zendaya and Josh Brolin, who are expected to reprise their roles, as well Florence Pugh and Austin Butler, who were also recently announced. Villeneuve is back to write, direct and produce.

Legendary had no comment. Production is expected to start in the fall, with the film set to bow on October 20, 2023. Jon Spaihts is returning to co-write script with Villeneuve.

cast just keeps getting better and better.